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Wade Wilson: The Psychological Allure of Infamous Killers

Christi Chanelle Season 1 Episode 40

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What drives a charming individual to commit unspeakable crimes, and why do some people find themselves inexplicably drawn to such dark figures? Join us as we unravel the psychological intricacies behind the terrifying actions of Wade Wilson, whose devastating crimes shattered the peace of Cape Coral. We explore the chilling details of the murders of Christine Melton and Diane Ruiz, and the host's personal struggle with consuming dark news.

Our conversation takes a deeper turn as we discuss the unsettling phenomenon of infatuation with convicted killers, with insights from Professor Amanda Vickery on evolutionary psychology. Discover the tragic aftermath for the families and the emotional toll on those who find themselves romantically entangled with violent offenders. This episode promises a gripping exploration of true crime, psychological analysis, and the haunting allure of infamy.

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Speaker 1:

Kristen, listen, we're going to become attached to each other for real. I kind of like. I like your swag, I like your attitude, like I feel you Like. I kind of like you know, like you know how sometimes you connect to people, like through a vibe. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Like I'm about somebody.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I can feel you.

Speaker 2:

What do you mean?

Speaker 1:

I connected through you to your patient. I was like I got five fucking new requests on my kiosk right now and they're all from fucking which I'm not going to. Yeah, I'm not going to accept. But I got fucking. I figured they were going to start coming in. You know what I mean. But I'm not going to accept that shit.

Speaker 2:

I already got one. Okay, just fucking get what you can when you're in there. What the hell Nah Get?

Speaker 1:

what you can when you're in there. What the hell Nah Should I?

Speaker 2:

I would. What the fuck?

Speaker 1:

Just go ahead.

Speaker 2:

What can you do? What can you do when you're?

Speaker 1:

in there. What should I get from him? Tell me, tell me how to hustle him. What should I?

Speaker 2:

do Tell him to put money on your book. Give your homegirl Kristen some money. Call my homegirl Kristen. Hook her up with the money, make sure she got money on her phone, say that's your sister.

Speaker 1:

You know, I'm your sister yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I might have to listen. I might have to do that because the cracker is hungry as fuck in here.

Speaker 2:

I'm not gonna lie I'm being that ass like do what you gotta do, babe.

Speaker 3:

Like seriously don't fucking yeah seriously the love you miss you by podcast. Let's inspire each other. Terrifying. I'm not a true crime junkie, I barely watch it. It freaks me out. I get scared Like. I definitely can't watch it home alone.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, I have this thing. I have this thing where I don't like to put negative news or negative information into my brain. I just I don't like darkness. You're probably thinking well, christy, the world is a little dark right now, so you just shut your brain off, you just close your eyes and pretend it doesn't exist. You know, la, la, la, la, la. No, I just choose what I consume. Obviously, I have to hear about the things that are going on in the world, but I don't have to hear about murder cases, I don't have to hear about true crime. That's a choice and unfortunately I got in my own way and went down a rabbit hole and now I feel like I need to talk about it. I'm more looking at this case not from the true crime aspect, but more about the psychological aspect.

Speaker 3:

First, let me tell you the background. Wade Wilson is, from the outside, a very good looking man. Wade Wilson is, from the outside, a very good-looking man. It looks like once he got to prison. He got tatted up on his face and it made him more of a bad guy Before the crime. You'd think he could model. Then when you hear about who he actually is absolute monster. So let me tell you a little bit about it. Wade Wilson is 30 years old and he was found guilty in June 2019 of the brutal murders of Christine Melton, 35, and Diane Ruiz, 43, in Cape Coral. The jury recommended the death penalty for each murder. Jury recommended the death penalty for each murder. Trial judge Nicholas Thompson will decide whether to impose the death penalty or life in prison, without the possibility of parole, on August 27th. So this month.

Speaker 3:

Wilson, then 25, met Christine Melton, 35, and her friend Stephanie Saylors on October 7th 2019. They went to a bar. After the bar closed, wilson and the two women went to the home of Jaden Shepard, where they stayed for several hours before leaving in the morning. Wilson, melton and Saylors then went to Melton's Cape Coral home After sailors left Christine's friend. Wilson strangled Christine to death as she lay asleep in her bed and then stole her car A short time later.

Speaker 3:

So it sounds like the same day, wilson saw 43-year-old Diane Ruiz walking along a Cape Coral street, asked her for directions to a nearby school and lured her into his car. Now I don't know how you lure someone into your car. I can tell you. Maybe I'm just scared of the world and I don't trust anybody. But if somebody pulled up next to me, asked me for directions to the school, I would tell them and then I would keep walking. So I'm not sure what he said to her and I guess we'll never know.

Speaker 3:

To actually make a 43 year old woman who's lived in the world decide to get into this car, I don't know. Is it as good looks Was? He comes off. You know, looks are deceiving man. It's like just because you're good looking doesn't mean you're harmless, doesn't mean you're a good person. I don't know. That little intuition that we all have as women did not go off, didn't go off for her when Ruiz tried to exit the car. So there had to be something that happened where she said I'm getting the hell out of here. Wilson attacked her, beating and strangling her before pushing her out of the car and running over her 10 to 20 times 10 to 20 times. After the murders, wilson called his biological father, stephen, confessing and narrating the gruesome details of his crimes.

Speaker 1:

They did, and apparently they had already got the box. Yeah, and when I walked out of the visitation, my wife, you know she was in the truck and she had gotten an alert of a news story. She said they had found her at like 1.30, and they didn't announce it, I guess, until you know 6 o'clock or whatever. But they still haven't come out and identified her. Oh really, they haven't. No, they said that they couldn't identify her. They needed a medical examiner to do it. You're kidding me, holy.

Speaker 1:

Was it that bad son? It was that bad Dad. I mean, I ran A hundred times, you know. I mean, that's the part that made it bad, right there, it wasn't bad until that happened and then it got bad. Listen, I know the calls are recording and all that, but I was sitting here working and I was thinking about it. Yeah, and it's really bothering me.

Speaker 1:

But this is what I just don't understand. Like why to that extreme? I don't know what? Why to that extreme? I don't know? What are you angry with, dude? What are you angry about, especially with women? Like what are you angry at women for? I don't know, I love you.

Speaker 1:

I can't even tell you how much this is tearing me, but I feel like, like I told you yesterday, I feel like I worried what was coming. You know, they're definitely not going to be sympathetic to me, especially since it took a medical examiner to identify the second girl. Well, like I said, they still haven't. They still haven't announced it. They went to her family, you know, and told her family that they think I'm assuming maybe the clothes or something matched. Yeah, I don't know. They asked me about the clothes, what clothes she was wearing and stuff like that, all that type of stuff. Yeah, I mean, they're not going to give me like the death penalty or anything, are they? Wade? Listen, I can't answer that. I'm not going to tell you yes or no.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if it's a capital crime. I think it has to be like premeditated capital crime or something. But you know, I'm not sure. Son, I want that to be all you do, okay. Well, you know, listen, all you can do. First step was you did the right thing by being honest, okay. Second step is you have to work on yourself a little bit and figure out what it is that triggers you like that. We know it's number one. But number two, why is it always women? Why are you so mad with women?

Speaker 3:

His biological father called the police and Wilson was arrested October 8th 2019. Diane Ruiz was a mother and engaged to be married, was described as caring and hardworking. She worked as a bartender at the Moose Lodge in Cape Coral and never missed a shift in five years. That is incredible in itself. Ruiz was walking to her 10 am shift when she met Wilson Ruiz's body was found in a field. Three days later, wilson told his father and confessed I am a killer. After initially dismissing the calls and attributing the admissions to Wilson's being a good storyteller, wilson's dad, 46, put his phone on speaker, with Wilson's biological mother listening in and relaying information to the police. His dad asked Wilson for his location and told him he would send an Uber to him. Instead, his whereabouts were provided to police, who arrested Wilson on October 8th 2019.

Speaker 3:

As far as Christine Melton, the one he strangled while she slept, she grew up in Illinois. She moved with a friend to Cape Coral where she worked as a waitress. She reportedly was a godmother, owned a cat and lived in a Cape Coral duplex. Melton loved to dress up and her favorite holiday was Halloween. Her cousin testified during Wilson's trial. Milton had a quick wit, made everyone around her feel safe and understood and was precious, not just to me but to everyone who knew her.

Speaker 3:

As I tell you, those events that took place, these horrific events that took place, how did it make you feel? Did it make you want to look this guy up, get his prisoner number and start writing him letters? Did it make you go wow, he's hot, I bet I can fix him? How do you feel? Because you're hearing this, most likely either you're watching me on YouTube and I'm showing you pictures of what I'm talking about, or you're just listening to the story without any visuals, never hearing about him before, knowing nothing about him.

Speaker 3:

It probably makes you feel sick. If you're watching it and you've seen him and you watch these different TikToks where they have him walking in in a suit and with this sexy music on, which is absolutely horrific, horrific, maybe you feel differently. I'm not here to judge you and your opinion, as much as I'm judging him and his acts of violence and terror and murder, but I want to understand where someone that is perfectly normal in every other aspect could feel lust for a man that has anger towards women who could kill you. I just want to know where that comes from.

Speaker 4:

About the number of messages and pictures Kate Corll, convicted murderer Wade Wilson, has received inside the Lee County Jail. The Lee County Sheriff's Office says that Wade Wilson has received 3,903 messages since June 12th of this year. I'm Fox 4 senior reporter, caitlin Knapp, and when I posted about this on social media, reactions were mixed. One person said I feel attracted to him or love you, wade. Others started asking for his inmate number to send him letters or put money in his account. Someone said Wilson shouldn't get any more communication from the outside. So I wanted to dig deeper about what seems to be an infatuation with Wilson for some people. I spoke with the Illinois Wesleyan University psychology professors, who says that there are many reasons why this could be happening. True crime isn't a new thing, but Professor Amanda Vickery says it's really exploded in the past decade.

Speaker 5:

Everything that seems to be related to preventing it from happening to us seems to really draw people to true crime, especially women.

Speaker 4:

Vickery focuses on true crime and, specifically, a woman's interest in killers killers like Wade Wilson, who murdered Christine Melton and Diane Ruiz in 2019. Some women have this fascination with the killers themselves.

Speaker 5:

Why, according to evolutionary psychology, we today are still attracted to the things that would have helped us survive back in our ancestral past. They hunter-gatherer environment.

Speaker 4:

Vickery says the gatherer is meant to be a protector, the dominant figure, who?

Speaker 5:

is more dominant than a killer, and so while consciously it makes no sense for a woman to be attracted to a killer, especially who has killed other women, our subconscious mind doesn't always make that distinction, that dominant trait, is something she says women can be attracted to.

Speaker 4:

but it's not just the physical looks.

Speaker 5:

It's this combination of this sort of bad boy dominant male image.

Speaker 4:

Vickery used Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson and Chris Watts as examples. She says, in some cases, though, there's no attraction or fame aspects.

Speaker 5:

There could be people reaching out out of genuine I don't know compassion for him, some sort of religious outreach.

Speaker 4:

Beyond the psychology of Wilson's case, vickery hopes her studies can help women in the long run, and this research can sort of help us understand.

Speaker 5:

why are we attracted to men who are aggressive sometimes?

Speaker 4:

While all this communication may seem harmless, Vickery doesn't think it's a good idea in Wilson's case.

Speaker 5:

In situations like this, where the crimes are so random and graphic and I don't really feel like he's expressing remorse, I probably wouldn't recommend reaching out to him. Wade Wilson is not the first killer to receive attention from women, and he won't be the last.

Speaker 3:

People put these monsters on their walls, they obsess about them, they make fan clubs about them, they make videos that are just like ridiculous. I don't understand it. I'll never understand it, but I can tell you as someone that was a wife to somebody behind bars it's no joke, it's not fun. I hated everything about it. I didn't ask to be put in that position, I just was, and my ex did not murder anyone and I still resented him for doing that to me. Why would you want to put yourself there? You have to support them. You have to pay for their food, their hygiene, their stamps, their letters, their phone, anything they need you have to provide. And I hope, if you're thinking about reaching out to a prisoner or an inmate, because I know there's a lot of you out there I would ask that you reconsider that there's some good guys on the other side of the bars. You know this is my take. This is a murderer. He does not deserve your compassion, your love, your money or your time. He is a monster. Period. Love you, miss you, bye.

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